G'day,

I'm in a rented house that's been in continuous occupancy (not by me!)
for half a decade. I've been cleaning the electic oven, which is a
Kleenmaid, built into the bench. Cleaning the oven itself has been no
problem, but I've noticed that there seems to be an extra kind of
'catchment area' beneath the main body of the oven; it's covered by a
little metallic grill, and doesn't slide open - it seems to be fixed
there. When you have the oven door half open, you can see in there,
and there's a centimetre deep of unspeakable horror. There's oven
grease, dead maggots and insects, etc. I tried as I might, but I
couldn't find a way to get in there to clean beneath the oven. Is this
the kind of thing that requires dismantling the oven with a
screwdriver? I hope somebody can help.

Cheers,
Jamie in Australia

The instructions call for citric acid, which I don't have.
Does anyone know if vinegar would work?

jamie.nuttall@gmail.com> wrote in message
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G'day,

I'm in a rented house that's been in continuous occupancy (not by me!)
for half a decade. I've been cleaning the electic oven, which is a
Kleenmaid, built into the bench. Cleaning the oven itself has been no
problem, but I've noticed that there seems to be an extra kind of
'catchment area' beneath the main body of the oven; it's covered by a
little metallic grill, and doesn't slide open - it seems to be fixed
there. When you have the oven door half open, you can see in there,
and there's a centimetre deep of unspeakable horror. There's oven
grease, dead maggots and insects, etc. I tried as I might, but I
couldn't find a way to get in there to clean beneath the oven. Is this
the kind of thing that requires dismantling the oven with a
screwdriver? I hope somebody can help.

Cheers,
Jamie in Australia

tbh, i think sometimes you just have to try not to worry about things. we
all know there's unspeakable horror somewhere in the cavities and gaps
about our stoves - in order not to go mad, we just have to pretend it's
not there.

well, that's what i do anyway.
kylie

My experience has been with paint that had dried. I used that orange stuff
for hardwood. It removed the paint very nicely and did not leave marks. I
would be afraid to use any nail remover. You might want to test it on the
floor in a place where it would not show (maybe a closet) first to see the
results.

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 15:10:35 -0600, "Sandra S Beall"
bealls-2001@comcast.net> wrote:

My experience has been with paint that had dried. I used that orange
stuff
for hardwood. It removed the paint very nicely and did not leave marks.
I
would be afraid to use any nail remover. You might want to test it on the
floor in a place where it would not show (maybe a closet) first to see the
results.

Hi Sandra,
I'm not sure what "that orange stuff" is? I still haven't done
anything! I will try the non-acetone nail polish remover in an
inconspicuous spot, I can peel back the carpetting in my coat closet
and try it there. But this orange stuff (?) sounds like it's worked
for you so I"d love to know what it is!

TammyM

"Karen Newton" <karen.newton@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The instructions call for citric acid, which I don't have.
Does anyone know if vinegar would work?

if it's a good machine, i wouldn't try anything contrary to the
instructions. i've become a born-again instruction-follower.

they have citric acid in every supermarket i've been in. they keep it
with the baking powder, arrowroot, tartaric whatever-it-is, cachous,
and stuff like that. kylie


Last week the Board met to discuss FH's recent spamming for the mold

Marcia Pease wrote:
In <AG2ph.4287$A8.3403@news-server.bigpond.net.au> 0tterbot wrote:
"Karen Newton" <karen.newton@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168309721.383982.185590@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The instructions call for citric acid, which I don't have.
Does anyone know if vinegar would work?

if it's a good machine, i wouldn't try anything contrary to the
instructions. i've become a born-again instruction-follower.

they have citric acid in every supermarket i've been in. they keep
it with the baking powder, arrowroot, tartaric whatever-it-is,
cachous, and stuff like that. kylie


Last week the Board met to discuss FH's recent spamming for the mold
remediation company. As you may know, a certain former secretary of
defense sits on the board. I served him espresso afterward, and he
told me it tasted like vinegar.

That's how I learned my lesson. Espresso machines are hard to rinse
thoroughly, and guests are less likely to complain about the taste of
citric acid.

Well HELLO Marcia. How very nice to see you in the group again.
I had NO idea you were a barista for the board.
Do you wash up too?


I served Donny at my apartment. At the meeting he had asked to see the

In <AG2ph.4287$A8.3403@news-server.bigpond.net.au> 0tterbot wrote:
"Karen Newton" <karen.newton@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The instructions call for citric acid, which I don't have.
Does anyone know if vinegar would work?

if it's a good machine, i wouldn't try anything contrary to the
instructions. i've become a born-again instruction-follower.

they have citric acid in every supermarket i've been in. they keep it
with the baking powder, arrowroot, tartaric whatever-it-is, cachous,
and stuff like that. kylie


Last week the Board met to discuss FH's recent spamming for the mold
remediation company. As you may know, a certain former secretary of
defense sits on the board. I served him espresso afterward, and he told
me it tasted like vinegar.

That's how I learned my lesson. Espresso machines are hard to rinse
thoroughly, and guests are less likely to complain about the taste of
citric acid.

In <50qaq7F1h2m17U1@mid.individual.net> Mrs Bonk wrote:
Marcia Pease wrote:
In <AG2ph.4287$A8.3403@news-server.bigpond.net.au> 0tterbot wrote:
"Karen Newton" <karen.newton@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168309721.383982.185590@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The instructions call for citric acid, which I don't have.
Does anyone know if vinegar would work?

if it's a good machine, i wouldn't try anything contrary to the
instructions. i've become a born-again instruction-follower.

they have citric acid in every supermarket i've been in. they keep
it with the baking powder, arrowroot, tartaric whatever-it-is,
cachous, and stuff like that. kylie


Last week the Board met to discuss FH's recent spamming for the mold
remediation company. As you may know, a certain former secretary of
defense sits on the board. I served him espresso afterward, and he
told me it tasted like vinegar.

That's how I learned my lesson. Espresso machines are hard to rinse
thoroughly, and guests are less likely to complain about the taste of
citric acid.

Well HELLO Marcia. How very nice to see you in the group again.
I had NO idea you were a barista for the board.
Do you wash up too?


I served Donny at my apartment. At the meeting he had asked to see the
inside after my testimonial about a certain carpet cleaner. I agreed to
show him if first I could introduce him to a special friend at Walmart.

G'day,

I'm in a rented house that's been in continuous occupancy (not by me!)
for half a decade. I've been cleaning the electic oven, which is a
Kleenmaid, built into the bench. Cleaning the oven itself has been no
problem, but I've noticed that there seems to be an extra kind of
'catchment area' beneath the main body of the oven; it's covered by a
little metallic grill, and doesn't slide open - it seems to be fixed
there. When you have the oven door half open, you can see in there,
and there's a centimetre deep of unspeakable horror. There's oven
grease, dead maggots and insects, etc. I tried as I might, but I
couldn't find a way to get in there to clean beneath the oven. Is this
the kind of thing that requires dismantling the oven with a
screwdriver? I hope somebody can help.

Cheers,
Jamie in Australia

Marcia Pease wrote:
In <50qaq7F1h2m17U1@mid.individual.net> Mrs Bonk wrote:
Marcia Pease wrote:
In <AG2ph.4287$A8.3403@news-server.bigpond.net.au> 0tterbot wrote:
"Karen Newton" <karen.newton@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168309721.383982.185590@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The instructions call for citric acid, which I don't have.
Does anyone know if vinegar would work?

if it's a good machine, i wouldn't try anything contrary to the
instructions. i've become a born-again instruction-follower.

they have citric acid in every supermarket i've been in. they keep
it with the baking powder, arrowroot, tartaric whatever-it-is,
cachous, and stuff like that. kylie


Last week the Board met to discuss FH's recent spamming for the
mold remediation company. As you may know, a certain former
secretary of defense sits on the board. I served him espresso
afterward, and he told me it tasted like vinegar.

That's how I learned my lesson. Espresso machines are hard to
rinse thoroughly, and guests are less likely to complain about the
taste of citric acid.

Well HELLO Marcia. How very nice to see you in the group again.
I had NO idea you were a barista for the board.
Do you wash up too?


I served Donny at my apartment. At the meeting he had asked to see
the inside after my testimonial about a certain carpet cleaner. I
agreed to show him if first I could introduce him to a special friend
at Walmart.

One should never mix business with pleasure dear.
Whink!

This was not my first disaster entertaining a board member. Fray once

What would be a good product to use to clean natural river rock that has
been blackened from a fireplace? The smut seems to only be on the surface,
but it has been there a long time.

What would you recommend, and would you use a wire brush or something else ?

Thanks !!


--james--

You open your door to a neighbor or friend. She walks in your home.
Here and there during your conversation, she casually looks around and
takes in the state of your home.
If your home is in great shape, you feel fine. You feel proud. But if
it's a mess, you shrink inside. You feel embarrassed. You berate
yourself for not making the room look good, as you had planned a
hundred times to do but never did.
It happens every day, in every office, home, dorm room, and business
all over the world.
Most people have a clutter problem.  That's why there are so many "Get
Organized" programs out there! Some people make a living helping other
people get their clutter under control.  And most of them do a great
job at this, and help lots of people.http://declutterqw.blogspot.com/#